While the modern UFO era may have begun with the emergence of saucer sightings in the early to mid 20th century, that picture eventually grew to include not only those initial sightings, but also reported interactions with the supposed beings piloting these sophisticated, non-conventional craft. Yes, indeed “aliens” – or as they’re often called in modern ufology circles – non-human intelligences, often to clarify that we don’t actually know where they’re from, just that they’re not human – at least we’re pretty sure of that fact – if by “human” we mean beings akin to contemporary homo sapien sapiens. Of course, as we’ll see in today’s episode, that clear cut distinction between us and them might not be so easy to delineate after all, but we’ll get to that.

From sightings of supposed alien beings – or, apparently non-human but very often “humanoid” beings – the picture filled out even more, to include the now infamous abduction phenomenon, where modern earth humans are taken aboard craft – often from the comfort and quiet of their bedrooms in the middle of the night – where they are then subjected to a wide variety of experiences, including – in some cases of a perhaps less apparently positive nature – invasive medical procedures and supposed hybridization programs, and – in more apparently positive reports – opportunities to see the cosmos and even, on occasion, to learn to maneuver the craft, often via mental intention alone, no less.

In terms of the beings often seen, while there really is a broad spectrum of others, one particular form has come to represent the quintessential “alien” in our cultural zeitgeist. Here I speak of the proverbial “grey alien”. The emergence of this particular form had much to do, one could argue, with the front cover of Whitley Streiber’s ground-breakin and nerve-rattling book, Communion, published in 1987.

Of course, that image wouldn’t have made the waves it did if it were not for the fact that many thousands of people reportedly recognized that prototypical face – sometimes, much to their chagrin. After all, if they recognized the image, if it was somehow familiar to them, even if murkily so, did this mean they too were perhaps alien abductees? These were chilling questions for a plethora of human beings to contemplate.

Of course, the fact that these beings were – if not exactly human-looking – then certainly humanoid, raised many questions. Why would an alien being look so much like us? Wouldn’t the evolutionary trajectory of their own home planet take them in very different directions? The conventional thinking on these matters assumed this would be the case, and it’s partly this that led to so much ridicule and scoff. Many took these humanoid forms as a good reason to ignore the entire affair altogether. It’s as if these people decided that since aliens wouldn’t look like this, the entire affair must be reducible to make believe or delusion.

And yet, the enigma of this particular form of “otherness” has endured, to the point where it’s now a mainstay in our cultural heritage, both for those who believe and don’t believe aliens are here, and are actually interacting with human beings on an ongoing basis. Of course another possibility that’s emerged more recently, and this would explain why these others look so much like us is they may actually be us – but us from the future; our descendents, who have been taken in some strange evolutionary directions based on future events.

So what is it? Are greys from an extraplanetary source – i.e. are they extraterrestrials? Or are they future humans, what Michael Masters has aptly deemed “extratempestrials”? Or is it possible that both options exist? And, furthermore, could the prevalence of this form, and its evident ongoing connection to us, point towards an even deeper and and more primary construct – that might not only speak to common origins, but perhaps also to a common terminus – maybe in the form of the singularity that rushes to meet us at the end of our time? These are the perplexing yet fascinating ideas we’ll endeavor to explore, in this, the 78th episode of the Point of Convergence podcast.

Over the past couple of episodes of the Point of Convergence podcast we’ve been examining two distinct but related matters:

1.) That various intel sources – sources trusted by credible individuals such as Australian journalist Ross Coulthart and British intelligence analyst Franc Milburn – have divulged the apparent existence of various factions of future-humans who have been intervening in affairs in our present time in order to impact the potential arising of a cataclysmic event that lies — allegedly — in our very not distant future.

And, 2.) That further evolution, especially after something like a cataclysmic environmental event, could very likely give rise to a species of neo-humans who would look very much like the quintessential “grey aliens” we’ve all become very familiar with.

It should be clearly understood, as I just noted above, that while these matters may be related, the notion that at least some of the “grey aliens” contactees/abductees have interacted with are time-traveling future neo-humans can (and, I would argue) should be considered on its own merits. And I think the grounds for this possibility are remarkably compelling, especially once you really gig into the pertinent details. Much of the evidence we’ll discuss today in that regard comes from anthropologist and evolutionary biologist Michael Masters’ book Identified Flying Objects: A Multidisciplinary Scientific Approach to the UFO Phenomenon.

Not only does Masters lay out a thorough and convincing case that so-called “grey aliens” are best understood as being a later arising along the same genetic line that began with chimpanzees and later gave rise to modern homo sapiens, but he makes an equally strong case that two-way time travel is not only a theoretical possibility, but a very likely eventuality based on our ongoing technological development. He also clarifies that many of the seemingly unworkable paradoxes that arise with the notion of time travel are rooted in our misapprehension of how time actually works, and indeed, what it actually is.

In today’s podcast, in addition to a deeper dive into Masters’ bold but well-supported arguments, we’ll examine additional lines of evidence that relate to the intel reports suggesting timeline manipulation by factions of future humans may already be happening.

Are time-traveling future neo-humans the missing link in making sense of the UFO Phenomenon that has eluded us for decades? Or at least, of making sense of a large swath of the data and activity and interactions observed? These are precisely the matters we’ll seek to unravel in this, the 48th episode of the Point of Convergence podcast.

When it comes to proposed hypotheses offered to explain the intelligence behind the UFO Phenomenon, the extraterrestrial hypothesis is still the most common idea put forth. For the majority of the population, when confronted with the notion that a non-human intelligence is supposedly here, traversing the skies above our heads in technologically sophisticated craft that run circles around our most cutting-edge aerospace offerings, space aliens still seems like the logical explanation. In fact, for much of the general public, this is really considered the only logical option.

For those who’ve studied the UFO Phenomenon in any detail and for any length of time, however, it quickly becomes clear – for those really open to considering all of the data with an open mind that is – that the extraterrestrial hypothesis, on its own, seems lacking. And for much of this small subset of the population actually paying attention to this phenomenon, something like the interdimensional hypothesis rises up as a leading hypothesis.

Other possibilities also exist, of course; one of them being the Cryptoterrestrial Hypothesis – which we’ve already discussed in some detail on a previous podcast – suggesting that a sister humanoid species may be cohabitating the planet with us, in a stealthy way – employing masterfully skillful techniques of misdirection to encourage our belief that what we’re dealing with are solely extraterrestrial visitors. A 4th hypothesis, positing beings known as ultraterrestrials, is a notion we will be pursuing in a future episode.

If you’ve studied the UFO Phenomenon for any length of time, whether you’re familiar with this particular podcast or not, you’ve likely come across all of the above hypotheses. There are still other options, however. Some of them involve elements that ask us to think a little more outside the box, introducing additional variables such as time travel to the mix. In this week’s podcast I’d like to explore one of the lesser known hypotheses that does exactly this.

This particular hypotheses doesn’t have a commonly recognizable name we can refer to, because it is in some ways a hybrid version of other hypotheses. If one were to give it a name, something like “The Post-terrestrial Hypothesis” works well enough. Though, as you’ll soon find out, it involves elements of extraterrestriality as well. It’s also intimate to us, because it supposedly involves actions by a time traveling non-conventional future human population, whose aim is to avert some imminent disaster in human history, by enacting some form of mass-intervention, accomplished mostly on the subconsciousness level, by primarily psychical means.

This particular hypothesis is, from my point of view, both insightful & elegant. Insightful in that it offers potential explanations for particular data points commonly found within the literature of the UFO Phenomenon that other hypotheses simply ignore. And elegant because it explains much of the data without resorting to the incorporation of notions such as interdimensionality and vast, interstellar travel. Melding together elements from other hypotheses, it adds time travel to the equation, and revolves around our own post-conventional human future.

An exploration of a hypotheses suggesting that at least some of the beings described in the literature of the UFO Phenomenon are actually our very own descendants, genetically altered, and featuring a spliced genome incorporating traits of other species from our very own planet, who are perhaps here to try to avert some future apocalyptic wrong turn in human history, is the topic of this, the 17th episode of the Point of Convergence podcast.